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	<title>Comments on: JPM Wants to &#8220;Quintuple&#8221; Bear Deal</title>
	<link>http://www.ibankcoin.com/flyblog/index.php/2008/03/24/jpm-wants-to-quintuple-bear-deal/</link>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 05:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Juice</title>
		<link>http://www.ibankcoin.com/flyblog/index.php/2008/03/24/jpm-wants-to-quintuple-bear-deal/#comment-18200</link>
		<dc:creator>Juice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ibankcoin.com/flyblog/index.php/2008/03/24/jpm-wants-to-quintuple-bear-deal/#comment-18200</guid>
		<description>Ken Fischer is a myth egregious, in his own mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken Fischer is a myth egregious, in his own mind.</p>
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		<title>By: DickBove</title>
		<link>http://www.ibankcoin.com/flyblog/index.php/2008/03/24/jpm-wants-to-quintuple-bear-deal/#comment-18180</link>
		<dc:creator>DickBove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ibankcoin.com/flyblog/index.php/2008/03/24/jpm-wants-to-quintuple-bear-deal/#comment-18180</guid>
		<description>According to my pal Ken Fischer, it turns out the credit crisis was actually a myth.

http://www.forbes.com/columnists/forbes/2008/0324/168.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to my pal Ken Fischer, it turns out the credit crisis was actually a myth.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.forbes.com/columnists/forbes/2008/0324/168.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.forbes.com/columnists/forbes/2008/0324/168.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: JakeGint</title>
		<link>http://www.ibankcoin.com/flyblog/index.php/2008/03/24/jpm-wants-to-quintuple-bear-deal/#comment-18174</link>
		<dc:creator>JakeGint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ibankcoin.com/flyblog/index.php/2008/03/24/jpm-wants-to-quintuple-bear-deal/#comment-18174</guid>
		<description>You can <b>sell</b> Skiffles April 95 puts for close to $6.00.

So, if you would buy Skiffles at $89, there ya go.

That's egregious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can <b>sell</b> Skiffles April 95 puts for close to $6.00.</p>
<p>So, if you would buy Skiffles at $89, there ya go.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s egregious.</p>
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		<title>By: JakeGint</title>
		<link>http://www.ibankcoin.com/flyblog/index.php/2008/03/24/jpm-wants-to-quintuple-bear-deal/#comment-18173</link>
		<dc:creator>JakeGint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ibankcoin.com/flyblog/index.php/2008/03/24/jpm-wants-to-quintuple-bear-deal/#comment-18173</guid>
		<description>Thanks Brucie, and if you don't mind, the final conclusion bears repeating here, for those too lazy to click:

<i>“All roads lead to deflation, particularly acute in the current regime due to the degree of credit/debt expansion. Every measure being enacted by world central banks is to forestall/reverse any further credit-related broad-based asset contraction. This is very difficult, and very unlikely to succeed, for any reasonable length of time. 

That is, as a shift in psychology has already occurred with respect to undertaking debt/credit expansion -- i.e. readily accessible liquidity is being used to shore-up balance sheets, to the degree possible; thus, any such measures to encourage risk-taking, are likely to have difficulty in overcoming this hurdle. 

The significant shift that has occurred recently is the Fed, and by inference, other central banks, willingness to increasingly risk the viability of their respective balance sheets in order to influence a shift in risk preferences. A new broad-based asset bubble is unlikely as any 'pullback' in asset trajectories that such a central bank move attempts to create will almost certainly be met by asset liquidation, i.e. it's akin to being long a position well below the entry price -- it's a natural reaction to let ride any rallies as long as possible, but to reduce risk, when it appears any such rallies have run their course. This is the result of the shift in psychology. 

<b>So, overall, any initially positive equity-related reactions are likely to resolve in further downside, until such time a broad-based capitulation has occurred.”</b>

That capitulation is a long way away in time and price. The U.S. is in for a long process of debt liquidation, and that means a shrinking GDP.</i></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Brucie, and if you don&#8217;t mind, the final conclusion bears repeating here, for those too lazy to click:</p>
<p><i>“All roads lead to deflation, particularly acute in the current regime due to the degree of credit/debt expansion. Every measure being enacted by world central banks is to forestall/reverse any further credit-related broad-based asset contraction. This is very difficult, and very unlikely to succeed, for any reasonable length of time. </p>
<p>That is, as a shift in psychology has already occurred with respect to undertaking debt/credit expansion &#8212; i.e. readily accessible liquidity is being used to shore-up balance sheets, to the degree possible; thus, any such measures to encourage risk-taking, are likely to have difficulty in overcoming this hurdle. </p>
<p>The significant shift that has occurred recently is the Fed, and by inference, other central banks, willingness to increasingly risk the viability of their respective balance sheets in order to influence a shift in risk preferences. A new broad-based asset bubble is unlikely as any &#8216;pullback&#8217; in asset trajectories that such a central bank move attempts to create will almost certainly be met by asset liquidation, i.e. it&#8217;s akin to being long a position well below the entry price &#8212; it&#8217;s a natural reaction to let ride any rallies as long as possible, but to reduce risk, when it appears any such rallies have run their course. This is the result of the shift in psychology. </p>
<p><b>So, overall, any initially positive equity-related reactions are likely to resolve in further downside, until such time a broad-based capitulation has occurred.”</b></p>
<p>That capitulation is a long way away in time and price. The U.S. is in for a long process of debt liquidation, and that means a shrinking GDP.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Juice</title>
		<link>http://www.ibankcoin.com/flyblog/index.php/2008/03/24/jpm-wants-to-quintuple-bear-deal/#comment-18172</link>
		<dc:creator>Juice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ibankcoin.com/flyblog/index.php/2008/03/24/jpm-wants-to-quintuple-bear-deal/#comment-18172</guid>
		<description>http://www.minyanville.com/articles/Fed-banks-debt-liquidity-deflation-hsbc/index/a/16365</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.minyanville.com/articles/Fed-banks-debt-liquidity-deflation-hsbc/index/a/16365" rel="nofollow">http://www.minyanville.com/articles/Fed-banks-debt-liquidity-deflation-hsbc/index/a/16365</a></p>
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		<title>By: Employee8</title>
		<link>http://www.ibankcoin.com/flyblog/index.php/2008/03/24/jpm-wants-to-quintuple-bear-deal/#comment-18171</link>
		<dc:creator>Employee8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ibankcoin.com/flyblog/index.php/2008/03/24/jpm-wants-to-quintuple-bear-deal/#comment-18171</guid>
		<description>Good call Dick ....

Bot BC on thurs and tried to buy HOG this am but they gapped .... same thing with IDCC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good call Dick &#8230;.</p>
<p>Bot BC on thurs and tried to buy HOG this am but they gapped &#8230;. same thing with IDCC</p>
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		<title>By: larry</title>
		<link>http://www.ibankcoin.com/flyblog/index.php/2008/03/24/jpm-wants-to-quintuple-bear-deal/#comment-18170</link>
		<dc:creator>larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ibankcoin.com/flyblog/index.php/2008/03/24/jpm-wants-to-quintuple-bear-deal/#comment-18170</guid>
		<description>Alias: BPOE

 It looks like the US markets are turning into Lucky Lotto!! You can't trust any Fundamentals or charts. It is the Wild Wild West. Only Support and Resistance. Overbought and Oversold will work. May Be? Fun Fun Fucking Fun!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alias: BPOE</p>
<p> It looks like the US markets are turning into Lucky Lotto!! You can&#8217;t trust any Fundamentals or charts. It is the Wild Wild West. Only Support and Resistance. Overbought and Oversold will work. May Be? Fun Fun Fucking Fun!!!</p>
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		<title>By: relax</title>
		<link>http://www.ibankcoin.com/flyblog/index.php/2008/03/24/jpm-wants-to-quintuple-bear-deal/#comment-18169</link>
		<dc:creator>relax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ibankcoin.com/flyblog/index.php/2008/03/24/jpm-wants-to-quintuple-bear-deal/#comment-18169</guid>
		<description>3xIYG-4xLEH pair working good ... financials up and LEH down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3xIYG-4xLEH pair working good &#8230; financials up and LEH down.</p>
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		<title>By: DTCapital</title>
		<link>http://www.ibankcoin.com/flyblog/index.php/2008/03/24/jpm-wants-to-quintuple-bear-deal/#comment-18168</link>
		<dc:creator>DTCapital</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ibankcoin.com/flyblog/index.php/2008/03/24/jpm-wants-to-quintuple-bear-deal/#comment-18168</guid>
		<description>Hi Q4,

Am looking to short financials too, but barring any unforseens, it does look like the short term bullish momentum looks strong enough to take SKF down past 90. Hope I'm wrong tho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Q4,</p>
<p>Am looking to short financials too, but barring any unforseens, it does look like the short term bullish momentum looks strong enough to take SKF down past 90. Hope I&#8217;m wrong tho.</p>
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		<title>By: Dinosaur Trader</title>
		<link>http://www.ibankcoin.com/flyblog/index.php/2008/03/24/jpm-wants-to-quintuple-bear-deal/#comment-18167</link>
		<dc:creator>Dinosaur Trader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.ibankcoin.com/flyblog/index.php/2008/03/24/jpm-wants-to-quintuple-bear-deal/#comment-18167</guid>
		<description>Oh, and thanks to Esiggy for providing me with faulty data this morning. Took me an hour to realize that all of my graphs were missing data from Thursday and Friday of last week.

-DT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and thanks to Esiggy for providing me with faulty data this morning. Took me an hour to realize that all of my graphs were missing data from Thursday and Friday of last week.</p>
<p>-DT</p>
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