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Israel/Iran

by bugsanddrugs on June 3rd, 2008 at 9:46 pm
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Stole this from Random Rogers blog. Interesting and scary .

Will Israel Attack Iran’s Nuclear Facilities Before the End of the Bush Administration? Joschka Fischer Argues Yes

Nouriel Roubini | Jun 2, 2008

I had the pleasure to meet and speak at length over the weekend with Joschka Fischer, former Foreign Minister of Germany and one of the deepest geo-strategic thinkers in the world. He argued with me that – as he fleshed out in a a recent article he wrote for the Project Syndicate – Israel will attack Iran’s nuclear facilities before the end of the Bush administration and that Israel effectively received the green light to this action from Bush during his recent visit to Israel. Fischer was recently in Israel to attend the celebrations for the 60th anniversary of Israel creation. A variety of factors and conversations – fleshed out in his article – have led him to the conclusion that Israel will attack Iran before the end of the Bush administration. This is just an opinion of one – however influential and well-connected – observer; but the arguments that Fischer makes on why Israel may go ahead sound compelling. We certainly don’t know if Israel will act that early – and certainly Israel has signaled that it will not accept an Iran that is nuclear - but let us consider the economic and financial consequences of such action.

First, even before Iran may try to retaliate to this action by trying to block the flow of oil from the Gulf, oil prices would spike above $200 dollar a barrel.

Second, Iran could react militarily to such Israeli action (that would be taken with the tacit support and the military logistic support of the US) by unleashing its supporters in Iraq against the US military forces there. That would trigger a military reaction by the US that would start a sustained air-led bombing campaign against Iran’s military capabilities (air force, anti-aircraft defenses, radar and other military installations, etc.)

Third, Iran would unleash its supporters in Lebanon and Gaza (Hezbollah and Hamas) in a military confrontation with Israel. A broader war will follow in the Middle East.

Fourth, Iran would use both the threat of blocking the flow of oil out of the Gulf and an actual sharp reduction of its exports of oil (an embargo) to spike the price of oil. Oil prices would rapidly rise above $200 per barrel and the US and global economy would spin into a severe stagflationary recession (like those triggered by the sharp spikes in the prices of oil following the staflationary shocks of the Yom Kippur war in 1973, the Iranian revolution in 1979 and the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1990).

Fifth, while Sunni regimes may – in private – sigh relief following the destruction of the nuclear capabilities of the Shiite Iranian regime – the Sunni Arab street (the masses of poor Sunnis) from Algeria to Egypt and all the way to Pakistan, India and Indonesia may become even more anti-Western and anti-American leading to the risk over time of rise of anti-Western fundamentalist regimes in many Arab countries.

Sixth, the Bush administration whose hands have been tied by the new National Intelligence Estimate (that argued that Iran had suspended its program of development of nuclear weapons) would thus be able to strike Iran – via Israel - before the end of its term. Such October surprise by Israel would also certainly lead to the election of McCain and defeat of Obama as a national security crisis of such an extent would doom the chances of Democrats to win the White House. So both Israel – that prefers McCain to Obama and is hurried to act as it is wary of the constraints that an Obama presidency may put on its ability to act against Iran – and the Bush administration would guarantee the election of McCain.

Now, it is not certain – as argued by Fischer – that Israel will strike that early; this is just a guess and a prediction by one observer even if many others think likewise. But if such action were to be taken by Israel the consequences outlined above would be the clear outcome: a major global recession, wars throughout the Middle East (Iran, Iraq, Gaza, Lebanon, Israel, etc.) and a major increase in geopolitical instability.

9 Responses to “Israel/Iran”

  1. The Fly Says:

    Nice.

    Instead, I’d prefer if we attacked France’s nuclear reactors, providing we left the City of Bordeaux untouched.

  2. bugsanddrugs Says:

    That is why I love this blog. A time machine mixed with humor. Priceless.

  3. Juice Says:

    You forgot 7th; China & Russia would blow Israel off the face of the map, incinerating Israels 300+/- nuclear weapons in their bunkers. Of course this could easily escalate in WW3.

    You don’t want to be long going into a WW3. In fact, short the EIS right here, right now.

  4. JakeGint Says:

    You forgot 7th; China & Russia would blow Israel off the face of the map, incinerating Israels 300+/- nuclear weapons in their bunkers. Of course this could easily escalate in WW3.

    You shouldn’t be smoking the heavy-sticky this late at night at your age.

    Israel has enough nukes its ownself to take China and Russia’s major cities out, never mind what the US would (be obligated to) do. Why in the fuck would either of those countries want an ass-reaming like that over Mullahstan?

    They’d make the typical calls of outrage at the U.N., and then go on about their business, end of story.

  5. calvino Says:

    Minute Maid.. and what the fuck do you think is going to happen when those three hundred H bomb warheads blow in their bunkers. My guess is two thing. Schlomo and Mordechai will open the launch doors when the radar operators tell them incoming. Following, the two Israeli Dolphin class subs launch at Moscu and Leningrad. Probably count every baboo capital in the target list. Third, the Air force scrambles the aerial nuclear arsenal and leaves presents for baboos in Mecca Medina and Riyadh Tehran Damascus and Cairo. Some pilots will go rogue and disregard the targeting instructions - who knows where they will leave their presents. All irrelevant, when those H=bombs blow in their bunkers.. say hello to nuclear winter or ten, radiation poisoning for anything under the atmosphere. You think Putin is going to play chicken with people who have nothing to lose?

  6. Anonymous Says:

    What will Israel gain from all this?

    Get involved in a war with a neighboring state who shares common beliefs amongst middle east countries except for Israel, further alienates itself in the geopolitical region.

    While bearing the possibilities of attacks to its homeland by Hezbollah and Hamas.

    All this because Israel is a royal ally to the U.S.?

    If this were to happen, the only logical explanation I can think of is the U.S. think it can end this war and stabalize the region in a very timely manner. But judging from its already stretched military deployment, and the fact that it couldn’t do so in the Afghan and Iraqi war, I’d have to conclude that the U.S. has gone crazy y’all.

  7. Juice Says:

    thats what i said jake … israel has 300ish nukes, aimed at cities all over the world. Israel is no match for Russia or China and if we came to their aid, voila, WW3.

    Everyone knows Bush is jonesing to take that loudmouth in Iran out of business. And everyone knows about the wink the USA gives Israel to do some of its dirty work.

  8. green writer Says:

    If this were to occur it would be a complete mess allowing for all those executive orders to be enacted under FIMA.

    I do not think Israel would be so stupid to do so, unless they were certain of intelligence that they were preventing a first strike by Iran. With our thinly strecthed military in the region this would certainly erupt into a much bigger conflict.

    Silly conjecture athis point.

    By the way FLY even if you did not touch wine country it would be ruined for at least a decade from fallout.

  9. green writer Says:

    More info @ BBC news under middle east on this story…could not post the link

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